What is cheese made out of, Styg?


If you REALLY want to start boiling it down that far then you are approaching the point of pie and cake being the same too. Don't go there man.

There are "cheese pies" to use the phrase...but they are defined that way.

Ricotta Pie.

Cheesecake; therefore implying that some form of the dessert in question does "rise" as pies do not.

Apple Pie, Lemon Meringue Pie...

Chocolate Cake, Cheesecake...

Your logic is flawed.

I own a couple books on food science; one by Alton Brown and one by some lady named Shirley Corriher (or something like that). The latter is the one which I am seeking to finalize this discussion once and for all.

Whose logic is flawed? You are trying to day that cheese and cream are the same thing, but they are not. While the concept might be similar to custard, it is not the same. That is like saying a Tiger is the same as a Lion. Sure they will both eat you, but they are definitely different animals.

Cake vs pie has nothing to do with rising. Pie is a filled pastry crust. This is why we have meat pies, etc. Therefore cheesecake is a pie.

Also....

God damnit Witherwing!! See what you did? There was an uneasy truce in Cake VS Pie, with the occasional skirmish. Now millions will die!!!

But we are not including savory pies in this discussion; it is entirely concerning dessert.

Tarts are a filled pastry crust...are they pies?

PIRATES EAT CAKE...TOP THAT!

But we are not including savory pies in this discussion; it is entirely concerning dessert.

Tarts are a filled pastry crust...are they pies?

PIRATES EAT CAKE...TOP THAT!

First off I prefer pie to cake, but go both ways so don't make me the bad guy here.

Second, this is not the standard Cake v. Pie argument. This argument is about the nature of Pie v. The nature of cake, not which is the preferred dessert.

Third, after further consideration I have to dispute your "Cake rises" theory by pointing out that pie crusts also rise.

Also, do not try to split up the camps by throwing Pirate v. Ninja in here as well. The bodies will start to pile up.

Get a room, you two.

Pilsner discussions are a good way to spend my 6am to 8am hours at work. I quit once the day really gets going.

Also....

God damnit Witherwing!! See what you did? There was an uneasy truce in Cake VS Pie, with the occasional skirmish. Now millions will die!!!

At least they won't die hungry.

Whose logic is flawed? You are trying to day that cheese and cream are the same thing, but they are not. While the concept might be similar to custard, it is not the same. That is like saying a Tiger is the same as a Lion. Sure they will both eat you, but they are definitely different animals.

I will not weigh in on the entirety of this discussion. I just want to point out that saying "Cheese" and "Cream" are "the same" is a lot more accurate then saying that "Lions" and "Tigers" are the same.

Look at the processes for creating each of the two.

Basically, the creation of cream and cheese starts exactly the same. You take the liquid milk of the female animal (cow, goat, sheep, tiger-if your really brave) and you process it into cream by separating the thicker substance from the thinner substance, or you create cheese by adding enzymes to the milk.

In some cases, the enzymes are even added to the cream to create cheese from the cream. Basically, they directly come from the same place.

Now, lets look at how tigers and lions are made.
Well, Lion babies come from when a mommy and a daddy lion really love each other... and well, you know how that works out...

Tiger babies come from when a bad-ass male tiger picks up a lusty chick tiger at a bar and they go home in a blood-drunk state of sex and desire...

Basically, you can't get a tiger to come from a lion, and you can't get a lion to come from a tiger. They are different animals... so they can't be compared to Cream/Cheese.

Now, you may be able to talk about how both a boy lion and a girl lion come from the mommy lion, but they are very different in their behavior: One is likely to sit around on a rock all day like a loaf and the other will tear your Fucking head off if you look at her funny... sort of seems like lions are very much like humans in that way... hmm...

Where do Creamcheese and Ligers come into play?

You didn't even touch on the subject of tiglons and ligers, Hom....

You didn't even touch on the subject of tiglons and ligers, Hom....

Cheesecake and strawberry shortcake: the tiglon and liger of cake vs pie.

I suppose now is a bad time to bring up tarts vs cupcakes?

Third, after further consideration I have to dispute your "Cake rises" theory by pointing out that pie crusts also rise..

WTF kind of pie crust are you making? I have blind baked lots of pie crusts and not one has ever risen. Flakiness is not rising.

If you mention Pizza...this conversation is declared null and void...and I won't stick up for you like I did when you pulled all the slimes in Naxx25.

One more thing...James T. Kirk...yep...cake eater.

One more thing...James T. Kirk...yep...cake eater.

Ah-HA!!!!! You tripped yourself up mate! James Kirk ate pie in the mirror universe!

Damned if you didn't shoot yourself in the foot.

Ah-HA!!!!! You tripped yourself up mate! James Kirk ate pie in the mirror universe!

Damned if you didn't shoot yourself in the foot.

That was the evil Kirk.

You realize this is why the french revolted... they were told "let them eat cake" and clearly the french people prefer Pie. I mean jesus effing christ they beheaded people over cake! Stick with the Pie... its always the best.

seriously... they didnt make a movie called american cake...

you never hear goals called cake in the sky.
that little old ant that wanted to move that rubber tree plant wasnt going after a cake in the sky it was PIE.

itallian folk dont call it pizza cake they call it pizza Pie

the longest freaking number in the world is not called cake its called Pi

if this isnt proof that pi > cake I dont know what is.

and for the record.. the evil captain kirk totally kicked good captain kirks ass!

itallian folk dont call it pizza cake they call it pizza Pie


Objection. Even my little old Italian grandmother calls it just pizza nowadays.

the longest freaking number in the world is not called cake its called Pi


Pi is not the longest number in the world. It's irrational and transcendental, but there are a huge number of those. (Infinitely many, in fact. And not just any infinite, but the next infinite up from the number of rational numbers, which is also infinite, and equal to the number of integers.)

And your careless abuse of English homonyms has been noted and reported to the Joint Taskforce on Numerical and Grammatical Abuse. Don't mess with them. They'll dangle your participle over the edge of a cliff, then hang it on a complex pole.

rubbish I say! complete rubbish. Next you'll tell me they will confiscate my
hippopotomonstrosesquipedalia. I will not abide by that. I stand by my statement that Pi is the longest number because I never tied myself down to rational or irrational numbers.
insert purposefully wrong and misused word: Irregardless

Pi, or Pie > cake

As soon as your opponent in a debate uses the word "irregardless", you automatically win. It's like scratching on the eight ball.

Therefore cake > pie.

Of course its wrong I was trying to see if the grammar police might show up and steal me away from work.. where incidentally I suppose I should be working not arguing about pastry and bad english grammar :)

SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT THE FUCK UP