including the time he was in jail for beating the shit out of his girlfriend.


Well, don't think you need much more evidence of a piece of shit than that....

"oh boy I'm so cool and buff because I can beat up a girl!" Pussy.

Just once I'd like to see a news report of some punk trying to smack his girlfriend around only to have her kung-fu his ass into an intensive care unit.

I have a friend who did just that I believe...

Just once I'd like to see a news report of some punk trying to smack his girlfriend around only to have her kung-fu his ass into an intensive care unit.

That's one reason why my daughter it taking Tae Kwon Do (although she doesn't know this reason yet). And when she gets older, I'll make sure she knows exactly where to kick/punch/poke if necessary.

Just once I'd like to see a news report of some punk trying to smack his girlfriend around only to have her kung-fu his ass into an intensive care unit.

That's one reason why my daughter it taking Tae Kwon Do (although she doesn't know this reason yet). And when she gets older, I'll make sure she knows exactly where to kick/punch/poke if necessary.


Re: Ripp
Has happened many times.

Re: Whatever
I recommend a better form than Tae Kwon Do. It's a great sport and good for discipline and and exercise, but not that great for self-defence (though just being confident in yourself is a HUGE advantage over most people and TKD will help with that).

Re: Whatever
I recommend a better form than Tae Kwon Do. It's a great sport and good for discipline and and exercise, but not that great for self-defence (though just being confident in yourself is a HUGE advantage over most people and TKD will help with that).

I know. It's more about discipline, excercise, etc, and the self-confidence is a big boost. I'm no expert myself, but as she gets older, I'll be sure to teach her the 'dirty' tricks.

I used to teach a self-defense class for women. The dirtiest trick I know is for them to take the edge of their shoe and kick them in the knee-cap then step down the shin as hard as they can on the foot... should dislocate the knee-cap hurt their shin like a mofo and break their foot. Anyone that's still after them at that point is on PCP.

There are others... usually a swift jab to the nose does it, as that's very disorienting... especially for someone that's not expecting any resistance. I'm sure Val could go on more as he's taught more formally, but for the stuff I was doing we tried to keep it REALLY simple.

FWIW, a kick to the nuts isn't that effective... just really pisses guys off for the most part.

FWIW, a kick to the nuts isn't that effective... just really pisses guys off for the most part.

Horsing around with my ex-bf at the time, I playfully kicked towards him and he dropped to the cement clutching his crotch faster than I could blink. It was an accident and I swear I barely made contact. I was actually laughing because I thought he was kidding. He wasn't. Oops.

But I'd go for the throat if attacked. I figure a swift elbow in the throat they'll back off.

Back on topic, not much interested in the MC runs. Maybe in a Sunday or two if it's still going. Would rather stick to VS runs if something is going on.

While knee breaks, metacarpal/metatarsal destruction looks good in practice, reality is a bit different. It's much harder to break or dislocate the knee than most martial-artists think. If it were as easy as a lot of "self-defense" or "reality based" instructors would have you believe, the career of your average football, soccer, and hockey player would be 1 game.

Honestly, to be able to do that against a resisting opponent is very difficult. If you ever had to do it, you might get lucky. I don't like to base anything I teach or do around luck. Like Raeb, I keep things simple.

Real self-defense doesn't involve combat or the ability to fight at all. It involves the decision to live and to do whatever is neccessary to make that happen. If you want to really be safe, there are two things you absolutely need practice: situational awareness, and sprinting. Sure, there's more, but those two things are the foundation of any real "self-defense."

Running is the best self-defense. Period. It's a lot harder for someone to try and hurt you if you're running away than if you stand there and fight. It's a lot harder for someone with a gun to shoot a moving target than if you stand still. Same thing with a knife. If you're not within range, the knife can't hurt you.

Situational Awareness is simply knowing your environment. It's listening to that voice telling you somethings' wrong and not dismissing it outright. It's not parking on a dark, secluded street to save a few bucks when you could park in a very public lot. It's about engaging in behavior that keeps you safe and doesn't put you at risk. It's keeping your head up, your eyes and ears open, and not being a victim.

Let me also dispel a few myths about throat attacks, groin attacks, and eye pokes.

As Raeb said, they aren't 100% effective and they're more likely to piss someone off than stop them. Factor things in like adrenaline, drugs (coke, LSD, meth, etc), and groin/throat attacks will not stop an attacker bent on hurting you. Poking the eye is not only difficult, but many people even under attack will not be able to bring themselves to do it. An eye gouge is also something that most people are not prepared to do, even if they in jeopardy. I'm not saying not to use these techniques, but to think that a single technique is going to disable a person is just nonsense.

Fixed responses to a situational attack give people a false sense of security in that they think they "know" something that they can "defend" themselves with. The reality of serious combat, not the way people invision it, but a REAL struggle is something most people are mentally and physically unprepared for. They're unprepared for the stress of the situation, the inevitable adrenaline rush and the effects it has. If all you have to an attack is a fixed response ("someone grabs me here and I do this"), than what do you do when it doesn't work?

I'm not insinuating anything about anybody on this forum saying that "you can't fight" or "you're just a pussy." What I'm addressing is the basest of our experiences; the most primative aspects of who we are. In any conflict between 2 or more people, we have the simplest and maybe the most common occurance in all of nature: who is the predator, and who is the prey?

Nature predetermines who that is in any encounter. One being is going to be stronger, faster and more ferocious than the other. So the question each of us has to ask when we're faced with a predator is "am I going to be the gazelle that does what it has to do to survive, or am I going to be the cheetah's dinner?"

I'm sure we've all seen the shows on Discovery or the Nature Channel where lions, cheetahs and hyenas are hunting. The ones who get away all have one thing in common: they never stop trying to get away. You'll notice that the ones who get caught end up all doing one thing: they stop struggling.

When it comes down to it, most of us are far too "civilized." I see it ALL the time in the people I teach. They do not have that "killer instinct." They are NICE people who dont' want to hurt anyone. This is not a bad thing at all, until they're faced with someone who does have that "killer instinct" and that person wants to do them harm.

There is also that 1 time out of 1000 that the gazelle takes it to the cheetah. I just don't luck to hedge my safety on those kind of odds.

Oh, and FWIW, a "slap" to the nuts is more painful than a solid blow.

Sorry for how disjointed this was, but I'm freaking tired!

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I understand what you're saying Val, reactions are situational and I agree. There are so many variables to each situation that one should never have a fixed idea how they will get out of it. But they should have a pretty good idea if the option to run is not there. I was just relaying the technique i'd most like to use if the situation were optimal for it. Throat, eyes, knees and groin. The most vulnerable areas of a man. At least, that's what my self defense class taught.

I DON'T KNOW YOU, THAT'S MY PURSE! /kick

I have training the martial arts >_> My trophies are only from sparring, because my thirst for blood will never be quenched :(

Also, another thing to know about how MC works is that after you kill a certain boss, not only does that boss not return until the timer resets, but nor do the minions associated with that boss. For example, the second fight in MC is versus Magmadar, the large dog. If you kill Magmadar and then leave the instance, then when you return the Core Hounds you've killed will not respawn.

Very few mobs respawn in MC, BWL, and AQ, most likely because most of these have some chance to drop some type of epic (set pieces in MC, usually weapons in BWL and AQ), and Blizzard doesn't want people farming them.

I don't want to be a sped about this, so I'll try to keep this short and sweet.

FOR THE MOST PART, the option to run is always there. There are really only a few circumstances where it's not. When MOST people who I teach have proposed scenarios where they "can't" run, the truth is that they're looking to justify a mentality to "stay and fight" or more honestly "stay and WIN."

There truly are only a FEW instances where running is not a choice. Situational awareness and being smart about your safety should minimize those instances to almost nothing. It's very hard to keep someone cornered who just wants to flee, rather than keeping someone corned who wants to stay and fight.

If you happen to be one of those unlucky few who end up in a situation where you MUST fight to defend yourself, then yes: eyes, throat, groin. Attacking those targets could disorient your opponent enough to provide you with the opportunity to flee.

As I said in my OP, Val can speak to this better :)