When are we going back to The Temple of Ahn'Qiraj?

I am pretty sure that we could make it past Skeram now. Here is my plan on how:

We will keep Foxfyr sheeped at all times, whether he is mind-controlled or not.

STEP TWO: PROFIT. Off the Prophet.

Old School...I can dig it.

maybe i can finally get a full set of power ranger armor..... i mean...... avengers armor.

that's a 60+ instance right?

If so I could go on Dondoh

Yessir. The Temple of Ahn'Qiraj is a level 60 40-man raid.

There is no attunement requirement.

I believe that there are, like, five people in this guild who have seen past the first boss. Eulalia has downed the end boss, Kay Thoon, and has danced upon his corpse. Me, I've never seen past Skeram AND I WANT TO.

(AQ and Naxx are the reason why I think that the removal of attunements isn't that big a deal. AQ and Naxx have laughable attunements if any, and yet they are so hard that few people have ever seen much of them. I SAY THAT WE SHOULD BE SOME OF THOSE FEW)

PS Jaanaa should totally have the AQ paladin gear, it looks sick.

I would be so down with that k.

Me too.

Guess I should see some of the Old End Game Content since I have almost seen none of it before it becomes the Old, Old , End Game Content.

Sounds like fun, but if I had to choose, I'd take SSC!

Sounds like fun, but if I had to choose, I'd take SSC!

I do enjoy seeing the pre-BC end game stuff. However, for the time investment, I'd also rather see SSC or Eye.

A RL friend of mine in a hardcore T5 raiding guild said the Eye would actually be easier then SSC. I have no idea if this is true or not. Anyone know?

I do enjoy seeing the pre-BC end game stuff. However, for the time investment, I'd also rather see SSC or Eye.

A RL friend of mine in a hardcore T5 raiding guild said the Eye would actually be easier then SSC. I have no idea if this is true or not. Anyone know?

I tend to agree. I also heard the same thing from someone about the Eye being easier than SSC.

I will go when I am well enough to sit up for more than 5 minutes at a time.

I tend to agree. I also heard the same thing from someone about the Eye being easier than SSC.

A lot of guilds go hit Void Reaver for their first boss in SSC/Eye. He's a pretty simple fight, similar to Gruul.

Technically the first boss in SSC is Hydross. He's a more complex fight and requires two tanks with full resist gear (one in nature, one in frost). This is trickier than most guilds want to deal with. It's also why many new guilds sneak over to kill the Lurker Below.

I'm not sure about the other bosses.

I don't think it's an either-or with old-skool content or the new stuff.

Some people could do the old stuff and some people can do the new stuff.

For me, it's a question of seeing content, and, well, since we are equally unlikely to get phat perplez either way, I'd rather see the stuff I've been wanting to see for two years, and then get around to the stuff I've been wanting to see for six months.

I would in fact wager that it's less of a time investment to get to the Eye or SSC and fully ready (what with all the specialized flasks you can get from Aldor/Scryer people) than it is to trek all the way over to Sillythus or Plaguewood.

We may be getting a bit ahead of ourselves talking about SSC/Eye. We should probably get to the point where we're one (or two if we get a bad break on the shatters) shotting Gruul prior to moving on. Even then, we should probably move on to Mag first before going to T5 stuff. Just a thought.

We may be getting a bit ahead of ourselves talking about SSC/Eye. We should probably get to the point where we're one (or two if we get a bad break on the shatters) shotting Gruul prior to moving on. Even then, we should probably move on to Mag first before going to T5 stuff. Just a thought.

Many parts of SSC and TK are much, much easier than Magtheridon. Mag is nigh-on impossohard, requiring five groups of four people (two cycles of banishers and their backups) to be completely on the ball and lag-free at all times; this is, I think, part of why they're nerfing the complexity in 2.4.

Void Reaver and Lurker Below are both pretty straightforward fights; the challenge is the trash leading up to them. Lurker would be easier from a learning perspective just because all of the trash you have to clear belongs to him; in VR's case, the first half of the trash belongs to Al'ar, so you have two sets to clear and two timers to worry about.

It's also a question of whether you're moving on just to see some shiny new stuff, which is really easy to do (SSC is remarkably pretty, considering; however The Eye basically looks like a bigger version of the other TK instances), or if you're moving on with an eye on progression. The two goals aren't incompatible, but they require a vastly different time+energy investment. :)

That's good information to have. Thanks much, Arolaide!

doing the old 40 mans and practicing the coordination it still takes to defeat those encounters will be a benefit to approaching the new encounters, if you want to look at it from a persepective other than 'hey i missed out on this part of the game.' AQ is a great instance and Naxx is even better, and the latter at least will be going away permanently eventually. besides which, i used my full striker's set for a good long time post-BC. people who said outland 60-69 quest rewards would outdo t3 and the AQ sets = liars.

blizz also tends to repeat certain 'encounter features' if you will, especially the broad idea that Everyone in the Raid Must Be Doing This At Once and Completely Correctly Or We Will Die (for instance, the death-slime that spits out of the floor in Heigan the Unclean's encounter, or Razuvious's shout which converts mana to PAIN, or the constant switch off between the Emperor Twins, etc etc.). and some encounters i've seen (given not in SSC or the Eye, as i have not been in thar) are pretty much repeats of the 40 man raids but on a smaller scale. for instance, there's a fight in naxx that is very much like a fight in Mech, and skeram is very much like the last fight of Arc.

I've only been to AQ once or twice and Naxx a handful of times. I wanna go back to them and check it out.

AQ40 has some really enjoyable fights. Too bad the trash drove people crazy at level 60. maybe the trash won't be so bad now? I think if we were going to go we'd still want to have like 30 or so people to keep us from getting overwhelmed since we'd be learning the fights on the fly.

From what I remember, we handled the trash just fine. :)

Not in the later parts lol....especially the bug tunnel before fankriss *shudders*
Not to mention the anubisath things right after huhuran.......

OK OK... I meant on the trash we saw... we did great! :)

Okay, so we'll keep Foxfyr sheeped at all times, not just on bosses. That way, not even the trash can mess us up too badly!

Okay, so we'll keep Foxfyr sheeped at all times, not just on bosses. That way, not even the trash can mess us up too badly!
Sheeped? Or naked?