http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/04/15/gruul-scaled-down-to-8-man-raid-not-really/

Because you're not hardcoooorrre...unless you live hardcoooorrrre!

Funny thing is that they'd have an easier time staying alive through the shatters simply because there are so few of them....

Yeah, eight people can stay alive during the shatters easier then 25. The big question is... WTF kind of dps are people putting out that they can eight man it?

Yeah... these are all T6+ people, so they obviously put out amazing dps. But seriously, how much can they do? How many grows did he get to?

You have to figure they have two tanks, two healers, and four dps. Maybe one healer and five dps... but still.

If they have five dps, each one would have to do roughly 650,000 damage. Let's just say that each one averages 1200 dps. That means the fight would last about 540 seconds, not counting the additional time added for ground slam/shatter and what not. Thats 18-20 grows. Tanks at our gear level would be one-shot by 16 grows... so that's some crazy healing towards the end.

I'm not saying they didn't do it... but the numbers are simply amazing.


/waiting for someone to tell me how wrong my math is

They are in sunwell, so it doesn't seem like it's that much of a stretch to do so. Assuming that the warrior is tanking, there is a shield wall available, plus a pally LoH. LoH can crit as well. So if the pally was healing and was low on mana LoH is a really good option. Other than that, at 17 grows (540 seconds) the dps will have to average just under 1200 dps.

Example: Fusion (US Turalyon) WWS for gruul

The top 10 dps are all over 1540 dps for that fight. So that's pretty awesome.... and more than doable.

BTW, they finished the fight in 119 seconds....

BTW, they finished the fight in 119 seconds....

Excuse me while I pick my jaw up from the floor...

In order to beat Brutallus, a raid has to put out something like 27-28k sustained DPS to beat the enrage timer, which is a number so large my primitive monkeybrain cannot fully comprehend it. So if they're capable of taking Brutallus down, they could handle Gruul before the grows get too crazy.

I'm not quite as curious about the killing of Gruul with 8 people... I'm more curious how they downed the High King with 8 people?...

They just looked at him and his friends and they dropped dead out of fright.

Some how I don't think they cleared all of Gruul's with 8 people but only Gruul himself.

Ya good point Homreker. I hadn't thought of that.