I used to use the updater for my addons.. but recently it says "cannot start application, missing required files". I didn't do anything to it.. but it's broke! Any suggestions? I don't even know where to find it to download it again.. I checked the wowace page.. and I didn't see anything that said download updater file. I loved the updater because it was fast and simple. So.. any help is appreciated.

Mayhew turned me on to wowmatrix. Same type of program.

Wowmatrix is the way to go. Hands. Down.

WAU has been shut down and merged with the Curse updater. And you apparently have to register and pay for one-touch updating? It's weird. Go with WoWMatrix. It's way harder to install from than WAU was (you can only install one at a time), but the updates work just like WAU used to.

Thanks! I have tried it and it's very nice indeed=)

Go with WoWMatrix. It's way harder to install from than WAU was (you can only install one at a time), but the updates work just like WAU used to.

...Huh what?

WoWMatrix is one-touch updating for me. Well, no, it's two-touch, in that I click to see which of my mods have updates available, and then I click to update all. If there's something I don't want to update, I un-check it (like there was some weirdness with Bongos for a little while and I didn't want WoWMatrix to update it), but other than that, it's one click.

Also hi Aro.

What I meant was that with WAU, you could install a whole bunch of addons at once. So like if I wanted to wipe my UI, I could grab all the fubar plugins I wanted with a shift-click. With Matrix, you have to go one at a time, and it is frustrating, a little. I miss that about WAU a lot.

It's the new Curse Updater that apparently makes you pay or be registered or something wackjob like that in order to update everything at once instead of every addon individually. Also, Dominos > Bongos.

Also also hi Stranger <3 I miss you <3 <333

Dominos is good? I've been hesitant to switch from Bongos2, but I know I'm going to have to. I suppose I'll just suck it up and do it.

I can only install one thing at a time with WowMatrix? Feh. Sucks.

Dominos is absolutely outstanding. The major shift from Bongos2 to Dominos, and the reason why I love it unequivocally, is that it allows you to keybind directly from the spellbook and/or macro window. So I don't have to use actionbars at all anymore, and that is HOT. SO HOT. However, if you still have keybindings in actionbars, it will port them over (Dominos is written by the same guy who did Bongos).

Also hi Beam. <3

I am hesitant to use add-ons that do that. I used a couple of good add-ons that did that, but when they went hay wire, it took me like a day to re-do all my buttons. And I figured out the other day, I missed a couple on my pally. It is great while everything works fine, but as soon as an issue develops, and I suspect a lot will appear when WotLK comes out, you have to start from scratch.

If it helps assuage your fears, I tested Dominos with the beta and it worked like a champ. The macro keybinding was a little whack, but everything else was fine. That was about a month ago, too, so I imagine there will be updates for them right at patch time to tweak those little bugs (Pitbull and Grid, my other must-haves, were also fine).

Dominos is absolutely outstanding. The major shift from Bongos2 to Dominos, and the reason why I love it unequivocally, is that it allows you to keybind directly from the spellbook and/or macro window. So I don't have to use actionbars at all anymore, and that is HOT. SO HOT. However, if you still have keybindings in actionbars, it will port them over (Dominos is written by the same guy who did Bongos).

Also hi Beam. <3

Cool, glad to hear the bindings will get migrated. I hate spending half an hour re-doing my keybindings. :( The keybinding from the spellbook is kinda cool, but I think I'd forget. I certainly see the advantage, though!

Also hi Aro!

Okay, apparently WoWMatrix is assholes. NEVERMIND.

I've been using wowmatrix ever since I joined VS. It has made keeping the 170+ addons (yup 177 to be exact) up to date. Most of the addons are portions of others tracked by matrix so that it doesn't have to download and update the entire parent addon every time--such as Xperl (with 20 subs).

Anyway, most webs sites have to make money somehow. As wowmatrix doesn't show adds like many of the others it would see they may have found another way to obtain the income needed to keep their site live.

I not condoning anything they may be doing to raise funds but since their tool is free to use and keeps my WoW gaming easier to maintain I'm not going to judge.

I mean every search site on the web makes money from advertisements or charging a small fee so that you see sites in a specific order based on who pays the most to be on top of a specific search list. Google charges quite a bit for a site to make it to their sponsored link page on top of what sites normally pay just to get ranked higher in a search listing.

Curse has the same issues. It charges for ad space even on their down loader. Just as the links on wowmatrix show links for WoW sites.

People have to make a living some how and when one method fails another has to take its place--otherwise web sites and their "free" tools go the way of the Dodo.

Me, I just want to game.

It's not that they're making money. It's that they're redistributing (wowmatrix downloads from their servers, not from the locations of the authors of the add-ons) other people's works without permission. An add-on is a piece of code and is copywritten. The author then attaches a license that lets you use it without having to pay them. For many of the authors (like most of the wowace stuff), they expressly forbid redistribution. They want to control where their code is distributed from.

So, the crux of the argument against wowmatrix is that they're violating the licenses of many of the add-on authors. And that's not cool.

Ah, I see. I misunderstood the concern.

Wowmatrix pulls files from files.wowace.com, wow.curse.com, files.incgamers.com and some direct site downloads (such as www.cosmosui.org and gathereraddon.com). I was only able to trace back to a few addon direct download sites.

I had Wireshark (http://www.wireshark.org) track the connections when I tried to update.

I did see a few connections swupdate.wowmatrix.com but most of them went to other wow addon sites like wowace.com or curse.com.

Of course this only deals with the addons I'm using but I didn't see it pull an addon update directly from wowmatrix.com. It only seemed to hit its own site to check its core database for current addon versions. It did a get for addondb.gz and that was the only file it pulled.

I'm not defending how the tool works, I'm just stating what I saw when I connected to the Internet and told it to try to update my addons.

I understand that concern but it didn't even try to pull a single addon update from its own site. They may not have permission to check wowace.com, curse.com and incgamers.com and pull files directly from those sites but the connection is from your PC to those sites so technically you are pulling addon updates directly from addon distribution sites through the tool. As we all have permission to pull files from addon distribution sites I didn't see a major issue with how the tool worked.

My 2 cents.

The problem with not using WowMatrix, is that nothing else works nearly as well.

If you use different updaters:
Curse's updaters is broken more than its fixed;
I've never gotten WoWAce's updater to work right, and its installer is terrible;
Cosmos updater won't let you only get the things you want, if forces you to download everything.

Bottom line: If the others can fix thier shit, maybe I'll change, but until then I will continue to use WoWMatrix.

2¢

The problem with not using WowMatrix, is that nothing else works nearly as well.

If you use different updaters:
Curse's updaters is broken more than its fixed;
I've never gotten WoWAce's updater to work right, and its installer is terrible;
Cosmos updater won't let you only get the things you want, if forces you to download everything.

Bottom line: If the others can fix thier shit, maybe I'll change, but until then I will continue to use WoWMatrix.

2¢

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WAU did the same thing, unless you got the version that just magically worked and didn't have all the bullshit.

FWIW, the version of wowmatrix I have checks out on every level of security I have, suppose I can't say much for what it downloads.

The major addon sites claim to be free of various security issues but honestly, wtf do they know?

I am not a 100% on this, but if I am not mistaken, Curse and those other sites do not pay addon makers, do they? The only ones at a loss here is the large site. And since most of the time, their updater is broken or you get your account hacked. I had a friend who downloaded a key logger and logged in the middle of the hacker stealing everything from his guild's bank.

I think this issue has been blown up by the fact that wowmatrix does not respond to any of these arguments. Curse and other addon sites have a faithful community supporting them. It has been a one sided arguement for the most part. Anyone who responds gets flamed. I really don't see a big issue here. If the authors were getting paid, and wowmatrix was subverting their payments, I can then see the big uproar. But, they are only bickering about banner adds on one site or another. They are arguing over who get the money, Curse or wowmatrix. I really don't care as long as the end result is reliable, which is what I found at wowmatrix.

***steps down off the soap box***

Thank you.

fuck shoes.

I'll think I'll pass on doing nasty things to shoes. I have enough issues with my feet.

I'll think I'll pass on doing nasty things to shoes. I have enough issues with my feet.



Someone needs to learn about foot fetishes!!!!!!

Just installed wowmatrix. It detected all the addons I had and updated all but 3. Seems good so far.

shews=win