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Foxfyr
12982 posts
12-03-2008 3:27pm
Hey everyone!
With release of the expansion the attendance in game is higher than it has been in a very long time. There are many returning players, many new players, and many more players that have been here forever.
This post is a reminder to older players and a request to newer ones to do their best to honour what makes this guild as great as it is and always has been. The tone may be a little harsh but the intended message is to consider those around you and has very little to do with trying to be overbearing or controlling.
The page we put together to help people fill out applications to VS has a list on it. I would like everyone to take a few minutes to read it because it's really, really important. While you're reading it, keep in mind that while we tried to keep its tone light, these are rules and not suggestions. There are 10 million people playing WoW and as a general rule we don't like most of them. Guildchat can be crass, lewd, and not the kind of thing we want our mothers to hear.... but we are not mean to each other. As a quick example, the only acceptable time to use the phrase "That's pretty gay" is in reference to the way that Killian looks at me when we're alone.
DOES THIS APPLY TO ME? YES, IT PROBABLY DOES!
I'd like everyone to have a look at this list and realize that it is being reiterated here for a reason. Many of these types of issues have been cropping up lately and it isn't just one or two people that have been doing it. Please take note if these are things that you feel you may have a tendency to do on occasion AND STOP DOING THEM. Let's make VS a happier place, shall we?
Asshats - We're all ambassadors of VS so NOT being an asshat applies to all channels of the game. We are quite proud of the name we've made for ourselves, please don't poop directly on it.
Beggars - We want to help, we really do, but sometimes we have our own things to work on at the moment. If you ask for a hand on guildchat and no one is available to give it, it isn't personal and we're sorry ...though you may want to consider bathing. I'm just sayin'. This is a big one right now. Asking if anyone is interested on guild chat is fine. Asking for 10 minutes over and over for a tank or a healer is not. Take it to whispers or lfg if it doesn't happen and please don't make all the people in guild feel horrible for not choosing to help every single time.
Drama Queens - It happens to the best of us but the world does not revolve around any one person. If you have a problem that you think needs to be dealt with take it to an officer. If it is with an officer take it to another officer. Dealing with issues in public will not solve your problem.
Item linking Zealots - The occasional sharing of a drop or wishlist item is fine 'n dandy and expected but when our guild chat is scrolling with links to stuff you want/have/masturbate over, no thanks.
Meanies/Creeps/Bigots - There's a definite line between being offensive and being mean. We don't like meanies. We also don't like creepiness. We have a lot of females in the guild and they don't like slimy creepazoids pawing at them so be mindful of how you may be coming across to the opposite sex. We also have guildies of all sexual orientations so haters/phobics will definitely want to look elsewhere. Bigots need not apply. The bottom-line is to be respectful of one another.
Politicians and Evangelists - Go sell some place else cuz we ain't buyin'. GChat + religion/politics = never good. This and the note before it are here for a very specific reason. Our guild has people of many nationalities, religions, sexual orientations, genders, and dessert preferences. These are issues that start fights and cause rifts that can't easily be healed. Don't go there.
Spelling/Grammar Challenged - Only a few here are actual English majors so no one is perfect but we do kinda try to make an effort.
Uberists - By uberist I mean a person who thinks they know everything about the game and just how everyone should play it. We don't care. It's a game. Let us play how we want to play. We appreciate opinions when asked for them but we never want to be berated if we're trying to do something different.
With release of the expansion the attendance in game is higher than it has been in a very long time. There are many returning players, many new players, and many more players that have been here forever.
This post is a reminder to older players and a request to newer ones to do their best to honour what makes this guild as great as it is and always has been. The tone may be a little harsh but the intended message is to consider those around you and has very little to do with trying to be overbearing or controlling.
The page we put together to help people fill out applications to VS has a list on it. I would like everyone to take a few minutes to read it because it's really, really important. While you're reading it, keep in mind that while we tried to keep its tone light, these are rules and not suggestions. There are 10 million people playing WoW and as a general rule we don't like most of them. Guildchat can be crass, lewd, and not the kind of thing we want our mothers to hear.... but we are not mean to each other. As a quick example, the only acceptable time to use the phrase "That's pretty gay" is in reference to the way that Killian looks at me when we're alone.
DOES THIS APPLY TO ME? YES, IT PROBABLY DOES!
I'd like everyone to have a look at this list and realize that it is being reiterated here for a reason. Many of these types of issues have been cropping up lately and it isn't just one or two people that have been doing it. Please take note if these are things that you feel you may have a tendency to do on occasion AND STOP DOING THEM. Let's make VS a happier place, shall we?
Asshats - We're all ambassadors of VS so NOT being an asshat applies to all channels of the game. We are quite proud of the name we've made for ourselves, please don't poop directly on it.
Beggars - We want to help, we really do, but sometimes we have our own things to work on at the moment. If you ask for a hand on guildchat and no one is available to give it, it isn't personal and we're sorry ...though you may want to consider bathing. I'm just sayin'. This is a big one right now. Asking if anyone is interested on guild chat is fine. Asking for 10 minutes over and over for a tank or a healer is not. Take it to whispers or lfg if it doesn't happen and please don't make all the people in guild feel horrible for not choosing to help every single time.
Drama Queens - It happens to the best of us but the world does not revolve around any one person. If you have a problem that you think needs to be dealt with take it to an officer. If it is with an officer take it to another officer. Dealing with issues in public will not solve your problem.
Item linking Zealots - The occasional sharing of a drop or wishlist item is fine 'n dandy and expected but when our guild chat is scrolling with links to stuff you want/have/masturbate over, no thanks.
Meanies/Creeps/Bigots - There's a definite line between being offensive and being mean. We don't like meanies. We also don't like creepiness. We have a lot of females in the guild and they don't like slimy creepazoids pawing at them so be mindful of how you may be coming across to the opposite sex. We also have guildies of all sexual orientations so haters/phobics will definitely want to look elsewhere. Bigots need not apply. The bottom-line is to be respectful of one another.
Politicians and Evangelists - Go sell some place else cuz we ain't buyin'. GChat + religion/politics = never good. This and the note before it are here for a very specific reason. Our guild has people of many nationalities, religions, sexual orientations, genders, and dessert preferences. These are issues that start fights and cause rifts that can't easily be healed. Don't go there.
Spelling/Grammar Challenged - Only a few here are actual English majors so no one is perfect but we do kinda try to make an effort.
Uberists - By uberist I mean a person who thinks they know everything about the game and just how everyone should play it. We don't care. It's a game. Let us play how we want to play. We appreciate opinions when asked for them but we never want to be berated if we're trying to do something different.
Foxfyr
12982 posts
12-03-2008 3:33pm
I wanted to close this thread but that closes the poll.
This thread does not require a bunch of people saying "Ya, thanks!" or "See!"
If you really need to comment, please make sure it's constructive.
This thread does not require a bunch of people saying "Ya, thanks!" or "See!"
If you really need to comment, please make sure it's constructive.
Dalwin
1091 posts
12-03-2008 4:57pm
Asshats - We're all ambassadors of VS so NOT being an asshat applies to all channels of the game. We are quite proud of the name we've made for ourselves, please don't poop directly on it.
Fox, thanks for the post. I did want to draw attention to this one because I think it is especially important right now. I have actually encountered a few people that refused to group up with me on some quests because someone else in VS was being an Asshat (in their opinion). In some cases, I definately think they were being drama queens. In other cases, if things went down the way they said, they might have had a point.
As Fox mentions, with everyone having there own thing to do as part of leveling the expansion, a lot of us will be turning to PUGs to do some quests and instances. I think it is important to remember that we are ambassadors of the guild and what we do can affect our good name and the ability for others in the guild to get things done outside our family of players.
Fox, thanks for the post. I did want to draw attention to this one because I think it is especially important right now. I have actually encountered a few people that refused to group up with me on some quests because someone else in VS was being an Asshat (in their opinion). In some cases, I definately think they were being drama queens. In other cases, if things went down the way they said, they might have had a point.
As Fox mentions, with everyone having there own thing to do as part of leveling the expansion, a lot of us will be turning to PUGs to do some quests and instances. I think it is important to remember that we are ambassadors of the guild and what we do can affect our good name and the ability for others in the guild to get things done outside our family of players.
If anyone ever hears from an outsider that someone in VS was being an asshat, please bring this to the attention of Fox, Lux or myself. I know most of the time the complainers are out to lunch but we still like to follow up. Thanks.
I'm putting this into the Welcome PM when our new people get promoted so they stop by. :)