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Ripp Thorn
1870 posts
06-20-2006 1:50pm
YAY! Now that Druids get Innervate as a trainable skill today we Feral's get to take it up the ass again!
Seems there are quite a few new bugs going live in today's patch for us Druids.
I have NO FREAKIN IDEA how in the hell they fucked up the following skills by making Innervate trainable, but they never manage to disappoint.
Enrage - Enrage is immediately dropping combat upon reaching 20 energy and the end of its self duration. This results in an immediate loss in 3 rage, so the player will never actually reach 20 rage. There should be an in combat duration after Enrage has expired.
Furor - Furor is not immediately giving rage or energy upon shifting into cat or bear forms. The effect takes place up to 2 seconds after a shift. Also upon shifting into bear, the player is not immediately placed into combat, and occasionally will flick in and out of combat before and after the rage gain. This can result in an immediate loss in 3 energy before being placed in combat but after gaining the furor effect.
Heart of the Wild - The talent is not giving immediate hitpoints upon entering bear form, this results in a loss of several hundred hitpoints, this effect can be reproduced multiple times and reduces the druids hitpoints by SEVERAL THOUSAND.
Feline Swiftness - It is taking up to 10 seconds before cat form recognizes that it has gone outdoors from indoors or indoors from outdoors. Significantly more time then every other ability only active outdoors.
Developer's response (as of 6/19 @ 5:36 EDT):
Furor.
Furor, was broken, and then fixed, and the fix caused other problems, so it was rolled back and a new fix was applied. The new fix is what is causing the delay, the developers are working on improving it.
Not staying in combat is unintended and is being looked at.
Heart of the Wild.
Were aware of the issue with HotW, and the developers are looking into it.
Ok, the Enrage bug isn't a big deal for me since I only use it when I'm already in combat and Feline Swiftness has only been working correctly for a couple of months anyhow sooo......
Furor absolutely SUCKS though. It basically means no more quick-shifts-to-Bear to intercept mobs aggro'd onto the healer anymore.
Heart of the Wild bug just destroyed Feral's. Jakiera is now completely useless outside of the "healbot" role until this gets fixed. The only workaround is to shift to Bear form and NEVER LEAVE IT. No more popping out for emergency heals/rez's/cat DPS...... Oh but on the plus side not shifting eliminates the Furor bug..... /finger
They know these class-killing bugs exist yet they insist on going ahead on this fucking patch anyhow. Who gives a flying fuck if Druids are broken? They should be used to it by now... Hell they only have 1 finished quest for their forms, cat form is still too weak and leather Balance gear is non-existant...
Oh but Restoration works great and we're really only concerned with appeasing the raiders anyhow so let's give them their new raid content.
No dinner, no movie, no lube, not even a fucking reach-around. Thanks Blizzard.
Cocksuckers. >:(
The more I play this game the more I realize how talented the small live teams were that kept AC1/AC2 running.
Seems there are quite a few new bugs going live in today's patch for us Druids.
I have NO FREAKIN IDEA how in the hell they fucked up the following skills by making Innervate trainable, but they never manage to disappoint.
Enrage - Enrage is immediately dropping combat upon reaching 20 energy and the end of its self duration. This results in an immediate loss in 3 rage, so the player will never actually reach 20 rage. There should be an in combat duration after Enrage has expired.
Furor - Furor is not immediately giving rage or energy upon shifting into cat or bear forms. The effect takes place up to 2 seconds after a shift. Also upon shifting into bear, the player is not immediately placed into combat, and occasionally will flick in and out of combat before and after the rage gain. This can result in an immediate loss in 3 energy before being placed in combat but after gaining the furor effect.
Heart of the Wild - The talent is not giving immediate hitpoints upon entering bear form, this results in a loss of several hundred hitpoints, this effect can be reproduced multiple times and reduces the druids hitpoints by SEVERAL THOUSAND.
Feline Swiftness - It is taking up to 10 seconds before cat form recognizes that it has gone outdoors from indoors or indoors from outdoors. Significantly more time then every other ability only active outdoors.
Developer's response (as of 6/19 @ 5:36 EDT):
Furor.
Furor, was broken, and then fixed, and the fix caused other problems, so it was rolled back and a new fix was applied. The new fix is what is causing the delay, the developers are working on improving it.
Not staying in combat is unintended and is being looked at.
Heart of the Wild.
Were aware of the issue with HotW, and the developers are looking into it.
Ok, the Enrage bug isn't a big deal for me since I only use it when I'm already in combat and Feline Swiftness has only been working correctly for a couple of months anyhow sooo......
Furor absolutely SUCKS though. It basically means no more quick-shifts-to-Bear to intercept mobs aggro'd onto the healer anymore.
Heart of the Wild bug just destroyed Feral's. Jakiera is now completely useless outside of the "healbot" role until this gets fixed. The only workaround is to shift to Bear form and NEVER LEAVE IT. No more popping out for emergency heals/rez's/cat DPS...... Oh but on the plus side not shifting eliminates the Furor bug..... /finger
They know these class-killing bugs exist yet they insist on going ahead on this fucking patch anyhow. Who gives a flying fuck if Druids are broken? They should be used to it by now... Hell they only have 1 finished quest for their forms, cat form is still too weak and leather Balance gear is non-existant...
Oh but Restoration works great and we're really only concerned with appeasing the raiders anyhow so let's give them their new raid content.
No dinner, no movie, no lube, not even a fucking reach-around. Thanks Blizzard.
Cocksuckers. >:(
The more I play this game the more I realize how talented the small live teams were that kept AC1/AC2 running.
jamisia
4240 posts
06-20-2006 2:02pm
At least the major problems here ARE unintentional bugs and not a nerfbat hit. Maybe the devs will get it fixed in a reasonable timeframe and throw a hotfix out there. Given the amount of screaming I've seen on the official forums, they probably are already looking into it.
It's a better situation than the enormous nerfs Paladin's took repeatedly since beta (when they were a bit overpowered) where all the class breaking "fixes" actually were intentional, sadly enough!
It's a better situation than the enormous nerfs Paladin's took repeatedly since beta (when they were a bit overpowered) where all the class breaking "fixes" actually were intentional, sadly enough!
Wouldn't good balance gear be "of the falcon?" Although, I don't know if you can find druid blue gear that's agil/intel...probably not.
Valneron
1912 posts
06-20-2006 2:07pm
... Paladin's took repeatedly since beta (when they were a bit overpowered) where all the class breaking "fixes" actually were intentional, sadly enough!
"A bit overpowered" is the overpowered-understatement of the year. :)
Now STFU and Innervate me, whore.
jamisia
4240 posts
06-20-2006 2:08pm
... Paladin's took repeatedly since beta (when they were a bit overpowered) where all the class breaking "fixes" actually were intentional, sadly enough!
"A bit overpowered" is the overpowered-understatement of the year. :)
This is true. And the reason I can say it like that is because I didn't play a paladin until post-nerf - I just PVP'd against them :P
Ingomar
0 posts
06-20-2006 2:25pm
Yeah, we had someone back in our old guild quit after the paladin talent re-do, because he was pissed he couldn't steamroller in PvP anymore.
I haven't even noticed the difference; we still soak up an enormous amount of damage, smite the undead real good, and fear a future patch when we can all choose whether or not to turn to the Dark Side and become Death Knights, in which case my guess is that I will be the only paladin left in the game.
I know for a fact Jam would not miss out on the chance, as he is a Lord of the Sith and would be unable to resist the power of the Dark Side.
I haven't even noticed the difference; we still soak up an enormous amount of damage, smite the undead real good, and fear a future patch when we can all choose whether or not to turn to the Dark Side and become Death Knights, in which case my guess is that I will be the only paladin left in the game.
I know for a fact Jam would not miss out on the chance, as he is a Lord of the Sith and would be unable to resist the power of the Dark Side.
jamisia
4240 posts
06-20-2006 2:29pm
I know for a fact Jam would not miss out on the chance, as he is a Lord of the Sith and would be unable to resist the power of the Dark Side.
I don't know... the Dark Side has better ho's but not so good restaurants.
Ingomar
0 posts
06-20-2006 2:30pm
It's true, good prime rib is not really a priority for the Lich King.
Unless it's Jaina's prime rib, OH SNAP.
Unless it's Jaina's prime rib, OH SNAP.
Jorack
754 posts
06-20-2006 2:39pm
What is this? I can turn to the dark side? Where do I sign up?
Ingomar
0 posts
06-20-2006 2:43pm
You would go to the dark side? You know that's where Michael Flatley hangs out, right?
Sherica
0 posts
06-20-2006 3:16pm
I think if Jak could just get his damn kilt, he could relax a bit and wait for the people who broke druids to fix druids.
Let's get the man his pants!
Let's get the man his pants!
jamisia
4240 posts
06-20-2006 3:20pm
I think if Jak could just get his damn kilt, he could relax a bit and wait for the people who broke druids to fix druids.
Let's get the man his pants!
Hell no, have you seen how hot Jak is without pants???
Ingomar
0 posts
06-20-2006 3:21pm
Jak is pretty smoking hot, it's true. But Kari is also pretty smoking hot with the kilt, so I think smoking hot will occur either way.
That said, I am all for a Get Jak His Pants mission.
That said, I am all for a Get Jak His Pants mission.
I agree. We need to help this man get his bloody pants.
Arolaide
2380 posts
06-20-2006 4:18pm
Indeed! Jak totally deserves pants. I AM HAPPY TO HELP MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
Jorack
754 posts
06-20-2006 4:20pm
That could be a tough mission... With his nerfed/broken abilities he won't be of much help. ;-)
jamisia
4240 posts
06-20-2006 4:28pm
That could be a tough mission... With his nerfed/broken abilities he won't be of much help. ;-)
!!!
AWESOME DPS, Jak!!! I'll help farm PANTS.
Jorack
754 posts
06-20-2006 5:55pm
I will help farm pants too - I'm also in the market for them. I just couldn't resist getting that jab in... See, I could easily turn to the dark side. My horde is a druid, so hopefully they have this fixed by the time I hit 60 (sometime in '07)... ;-)
Gilad
370 posts
06-20-2006 8:42pm
I'm a little confused. You more or less lost me after resto druids work fine.
jamisia
4240 posts
06-20-2006 9:08pm
I'm a little confused. You more or less lost me after resto druids work fine.
LOL!!! This is guaranteed to illicit a response!
Ripp Thorn
1870 posts
06-20-2006 9:31pm
I'm a little confused. You more or less lost me after resto druids work fine.
>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
*grumble**grumble*bloody fucking mages*grumble**grumble*
Gilad
370 posts
06-21-2006 1:25am
I'm sorry, I just couldn't resist.